OTD

Basically, Zoom swiped up the Speed Force for himself so he could try to create his own Flashpoint-esque event but with more control over it, so he can keep his powers and be the only Speed Force conduit and build himself up as The Flash, sole hero of the world after he alters everyone else's timelines. It's really just a filler, not a major arc. I'm imagining they'll stop him before he can do that.

Okay so here's the jist of Zeitgeist's arc here. 

Zeitgeist has come to the United States himself to finish his takeover, he's already taken Queen Industries, Kord Industries, and he's going to wage a literal war on Metropolis and Gotham next. He's changed his mind about his goals now. He at first wanted to create a World War to fatten his own pockets. Now however he wants to take over the world to prepare it for Sovereign, he's seen the League beaten and battered and knows they can't beat Sovereign. He plans to take over Earth and united it against Sovereign with a massive arms build up with weapons designed by him and supplied from off world by Darkseid. 

The containers Zeitgeist is moving contain two things, some contain automated soldiers based of Sturm's design, others contain nanomachines which will allow about 10% of the Human population on Earth to gain metahuman powers for his army. 

His attack will be swift and devastating on Metropolis and Gotham and I plan on killing a couple of my characters off during the arc. Probably Green Lantern and Deathstroke (Carter).

sounds good.

was planning on having Lance stand in for Talon and save his life or something to try and cause doubt in anyone's mind who suspects he is Talon.

I like it.

Since Sovereign is watching everything, he'd probably find this sudden heel turn amusing. Whenever he's brought down, Sovereign might actually visit him in prison or wherever he'll end up, assuming no one kills him.

I was actually going to retire a few characters as well, though not necessarily kill them. I know Bat-Woman was among them.

Zeitgeist will survive to plague the League again, I see him being a Vandal Savage type of villain.

Neat. Do we think anyone's going to get offed by Superman when he goes berserk?

Hmm, possibly. Don't know who though.

I'm imagining that Batman makes considerable progress during the whole event at some point, but as soon as he's about to come full circle with it he's ambushed by Vidar at that moment and thus during the encounter not only takes down Vidar but ultimately is rendered paralyzed and damaged, seemingly beyond repair. Just to add the despair. That's the only retirement I have planned.

will he be returning?

Batman? He'll be rendered unfit to do anything outside the cave as the caped crusader and might end up in a depressed slump.

so he'll become an Orcale type character. Might have to have an intervention.

Hahaha, perhaps! I don't know if I'll make him into an oracle. Maybe later on or not at all, depending on how things work out in the future. I'm picturing him being a bit of an emotional wreck.

ahh.

Still planning on having Edgar take up the Batman mantle though he'll probably leave the Justice League too.

Why's that?

I can see a dispute happening over the mantle. I do expect Derek to recover in the future.

Not really sure since he's going to have is own team. Might have something to do with how they handled the Sovereign situation

yeah, me and venom worked out that Nightwing would willing give up the mantle to Edgar.

Yeah, I remember that. Would Edgar end up being too attached to the idea of ever giving the mantle back, then? Possibility of a smaller arc or plot event later? 

I have considered making Arkham Knight.

It could be an interesting sub plot or something. Though a switch of identities would not be out of question. Maybe Derek takes up the mantle of Talon and takes over the Birds of Prey.

Arkham Knight?

Just had a thought that maybe all these heroes in Gotham either decide to form a team and go by the name Knights of Gotham/Gotham Knights or it's a name the media just starts calling them.

Arkham Knight is a new character being introduced in the next Arkham game.

I think it'd be a good arc, Nightwing would have trouble deciding who to back if Edgar and Derek fight for the cowl, he knows Derek and is loyal to him but Edgar is a Wayne and he feels a Wayne should be the Bat over anyone. 

Who all is in our Birds of Prey?

That game looks epic, by the way.

I think it'd be kind of interesting getting to see how Bat-Girl and Lorie react to this. Albeit by this time, Lorie might have slipped into Catalyst again, so she may be okay with it.

I know I wanted Inque to start out in it then break away into an all female team as the Gotham Sirens. I'm not sure if I was going to have Kasumi on Birds of Prey or Suicide Squad. I think it was the latter, though.

The only one's I know of would be Edgar/Talon as the leader with Lance/Falcon, Thomas/Eagle, Scarlett/Black Bird and Elizabeth/Nigtengale. Wasn't sure of who else would be joining.

Suicide Squad I think we discussed Slade/Deathstroke, Gage/Nightstalker, and a few others I can't remember.


So what if Derek becomes the Arkham Knight would solve some dilemas about who is Batman when Derek is ready

I still haven't got Arkham Origin, haven't even finished the first two games

Perhaps it might. I'm not quite sure yet, to be honest. I need to do some more research and figure out how Derek's path would go in that case as the Arkham Knight. He does know that normally Edgar would've been someone to take up the mantle due to family ties, but Derek's grown into the role and feels protective of the persona now that he's established himself, as if he'd been entitled. Mind you, I'm kinda thinking around the time when Derek does get out of being crippled and the whole tense atmosphere around who the hell's gonna keep the mantle thing starts. I think the whole dilemma that brews around for everyone in the Bat community concerning the mantle could probably pick up as a slightly larger arc centered in Gotham. Could be interesting.

Or maybe he recovers earlier than expected and keeps up the act of not being fit for combat and suddenly there's another 'More Brutal Than Usual' vigilante running around the city.

I played Arkham Origins for the 360 and I thought it was kinda fun, until the game continued to crash on me several times during one specific part of the game. I think a patch has been released by now so I guess I'll need to finish it.

All sounds good to me.

I have it for PS3. Presumably it was better about the crashes there. I goth more glitching. I don't recall it ever crashing completely on me, though. It mainly just lagged around during the pre-rendered cut scenes. Especially the ones involving the Bat Wing.

My game only lagged when I'd go across the Bridge in the middle of Gotham, but then they released the patch and I had no problems. It's a fun game but I wish they'd just have stuck with Black Mask as the big bad.

Eh. I didn't mind that. Probably because I completely saw it coming. But Black Mask is always just has more to do with Black Gate anyway, so using him as the reason Sharp establishes Arkham wouldn't have made much, if any sense from a storytelling perspective. He's not insane, after all. Just a really bad dude. Joker, regardless of whether it's a ruse or not, is 100% absolo-freakin-lutely bonkers, so it fits. Could they have used another villain, though? Yeah. I kinda of wouldn't have minded seeing the main bad guy be someone like Two-Face. Two-Face is insane but is also the kind of person who'd hire assassins. I'd say Penguin, but his Arkhamverse counterpart isn't as nuts as he's usually depicted, so I doubt that'd have worked. Plus, he's really not nearly as grandiose. I feel like Poison Ivy or Mr. Freeze being the origin piece for Arkham would be pushing the limits of believability, given the rest of the plot. Actually, I'd have been on board with Riddler being the big bad or something. He's crazy, just a quieter kind of crazy. More methodical. I also would like to, at some point, maybe see a side mission involving Man-Bat or maybe Killer Moth.

It just gets tiring of beating down Joker for three straight games now. Plenty of insane criminals for Batman to fight if they needed someone to start Arkham up. 

Also Deathstroke...was disappointed with him he came and went way too fast. I was hoping he'd be the final boss in some be all end all climatic fight, instead I got Bane who was just more annoying than anything.